ha ha ha a bus- not such a super truck...
riding lawnmower on BL RallyX ha ha!
the best thing some one said and now has in their sig, is other 'games' are about car tuning LFS is about racer tuning.
the more disciplines the better, not just more cars in one class.
BTW why is it the XRT and XRG and RAC are sooooo Slippy in the rear? is it the tyre model or the grip from the crap tires?
improvement suggestion- All cars should have a basic rollcage in them- they are racing afterall.

all the additional cars and real road racers are great- we can have alist longer tha GT4but expanding the racing experience would be the Charm here (maybe this is why LFS has generic cars, each is for a specific type/class/style of racing) Which is why a DBR9 a F430, Murcielago, gallardo, CLK-GTR, EVo, Evo, WRXSti, Spyker, Vertigo, wtc. are great but these fit and expand an existing class..new car classes (even if lap times are equivalant- driving style and lines surely are not) would make for new views on racing...I just rediscovered the LX4- lurid slides, easy control...The LX6 should simply be put on slicks, and Bin the road version. Great fun, formula fords? 1967 GP style cars, Can-am types, LMP styles, Supertrucks, Trans-am style cars... this is how I see LFS expanding and i can see it doing so very well. but first up SUPERTRUCKS

the point mad above about adding a car which would add a new dimension to it is why i champion Superracing Trucks... a rally raid car would be great bu does it fit LFS track model? and long races as such are 1000's of kilometers, can this be modeled or used practically in LFS? cars which would slot into given classses are terriffic but it doesn't expand into a different 4(six? F1 Tyrrel and Supertrucks) wheel discipline, just adds to the fun whic is a great idea...but i would like to see trucks, maybe riding lawnmowers even, but a liscenced car just to have- it not yet.

i have raced at road america and i tell you one thing it is really really big
and the forest is very very dense in spots
Deer get in often and i have hit a turkey or something with feathers once in a formula ford, pretty gross and i can imagine a deer in there..marshall would have to link arms every where to prevent it.
these animal show up like POW and you have so little time to do something

subaru WRX Sti-
would be great tarmac and rally.. a tip over the Evo i think

ahh there you have it the Nos mod people used to cheat online with demo cars!
cheat=NoS?
no i would say that NOS is not right for the circuit cars, but a tank of it in the S1 cars might be welcome... this would also iplement turbo PTP buttons for the new Champcar they will make...illepall
If there is a proper drag car(which people will end up using it for circuit racing) then a NOS button would be great, or it could be a handicap, and only available for the non-Circuit race cars (FXO, GTi, Uf1, Xrt, RAC, FZ5 LX's...) because it will work ina straight but no way will these cars handle it in a corner...
so everyone would be happy?

i don't think it would enhance the racing experience any however...

ah yes ofcourse..
but pitting every 5 laps? nah you can set it up to do 25 laps or more no pitting needed unless your low on water or fuel... (see MBTR by syntec...of course supertruck racing on PS2 has only 10 lap max :really

The water tank can be done, but es this would introduce brake fade... to all classes, or simply make a temperature reading a "brake system" for trucks, if it gets tooo hot the truck won't stop, or lock up in place. and the water tank button can be tied to a wheel button- or the traction control button!
so use it to keep the "brakes" out of the red, simple idea to brakes with manual cooling.
if no one hase tried MBTR or SupertrucksRacing you should they are rely fun. And drfiters would love these things...

The intorduction of many nay sayer into a racing class which you don't get or follow can be a bonus to the type of racing and all the uninitiated,
While i would really enjoy dakar styl or rally race-hillclimbs etc... I think LFS model excels on tarmac... and rainy weather might be nice.. But the small rally X tracks don't do much to make it interesting, and frankly i love tarmac races, Rallye and raids are great but it doesn't feel as if it fits into LFS 100%- after all it is everything from UF1 to BF1...Dirt? where is the Winged sprint car, and midgets? and the dirt oval?- the bullring, the highbanks?
with the given tracks- sunny, windy, cooler weather (but always dry)
i think adding Supertrucks is a good way for something totally new and supertruck fun.
of course there is that LMP....and the stockcar...and the ....trans-am...and the V8 supertaxi...

of course come to think of all the great ideas here- a BMW GTR or a VIPER would add to the big GT class. a new addition would be welcome of course, I feel as stated the XRR should be improved a bit, i drive it competitively against FZR and FXR but these car appear to be much easier to drive quickly.
a Viper would be nice, but then a C6R Vette too...
perhaps the RACeABOut will become a GT class car before anything else new is added. or the RB4 (RBR?)
And I realize a LMP type car would show up sooner than A Super truck I feel

The demo car classes seem to be languishing now, so no need to expand this... although a rear drive competitor to the UF1/XFG- think 100hp Volvo amazon 122 or AbarthFiat 550 might be better suited and a UFR/XFGti expansion would be fun (Rallye/race style Volvo 122 amazon).

All vote SuperTrucks! how many other games have these? MercedesBenz Truck Racing from 2002, or Supertruck racing for PS2 in 2004?- and the Toca racedriver series has horrible trucks racing there- these guys didn't get their data from FIA trucks, or even regs! (these trucks are 5 or 6 speed, not 7 and rev to 2200-3500rpm max depending on the truck.)

the sound is a 20 hz Rumble-no ROAR
1300-1500 HP (Max.torque 5200Nm) 0-100kph in 4.5-5 seconds. 12 litre capacity (12.5 max). less than 6 seconds to 160KPH. what are they 5500 kg- WOAH tonnes! 5.5 bar of boost. (260 kph anyone? no real people to hurt or circuit to destroy lets hope breaks keep up!) -a button for water to cool those brakes would be needed. and the HORN blasts! haha haha!!

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What a great SIM program to use on Saubers promotion days? forever advertising on the worlds greatest SIM? Incredible tyre modelling for them to use in their simulations, ?
What could it be? SuperTrucks would be great, 2 classes unrestricted (up to 256KPH and the restricted class to 160KPH, and 2 designs each maybe the Long nose frieght liner type, and the flat face MAN tractor type (of course that would be a total of 4 new cars, better stick with the Buggyra (a compromise of them 2 types) i think- although the MErcedes/ and MAN and Ford types ( see attachments of Ford vs. mercedes) would be tooo excellent-. SRT (superrace truck-unrestriced) and (RRT restricted race truck) or is it better to have them restriced awith a turbo boost? the current FIA regs regulated them to 160kph, but they are trying to get a turbo boost allowance to get them to 180 or 200kph temporarily (push to pass any one?) so as to allow use of slip streaming and passing and catching up when things go awry...

The UF1 and UFR class get raced plenty- so this style could be great fun and have lots of attention. (Either SRT or RRT) but a push to pass should be mandatory...


and the XRR should have a V6 or V8 NA, the Turbo kills it with the ag compared to the FZR...

well the truck class would be something crazy in it self- perhaps they can not model it... A viper- or an old Trans am type- my question is can the image or shape of a known car be used, if you have the TEAM's permission or do you also need the manufacturer? see with race trucks there are 2 basic shapes and 1 wierd team designed Buggyra style (now running 'frieghtliner' bodies.
so the team can offer theri whole 'old' package as the new one is so different, and perhaps this can be used to create the 2 basic shapes... other wise aren't the Devs bound to what a manufacturer says.
the Sauber shape was free to use per Suaber, and the BMW engine well it isn't really but the BF1 uses Suaber Data so and they have use of BMW logos and such...
so can we call up RuSport or Forsythe and get Lola data and Cosworth XFE data? or would we need to talk to Lola, and Cosworth? fo a champcar let say.
or can we call up Penske and get a NASCAR type car using their data (a generic shape here is easy. and a silhoutte type racer dosn't need anyone's aproval- unless we badge it...?)
so what would I need to kno here any ideas?

I would have no problem communicating with any one attemting to make a deal, exposure exposure of course Scavier Solutions (all three i guess) would have to give me the go ahead. and What power would i have to give a liscence and software package to any one so that they can test it?

Lots needs to be decided before I can make the deal..

i like the psuedo-daytona 24 hours configureation you can see in you pic..
most of the oval with the infield loop with 2 hairpins thrown in- that would be a fun high speed layout..

you know if LFS worked a deal with Sauber BMW how hard would it be to make a deal with any team?

We want V8's? or SuperTrucks, contact Buggyra.com for super truck data, and permission those guys would love it, use the last model Buggyra Racing Special (not the current frieghtliner variety) I am sure that data won't devulge secrets, and call up a V8 star team or a Trans am team to get that data and shapes and sponsor decals and Viola!

I think the LFS team underestimates how useful their programming is to a team looking for more data, on the cheap... It is so much a sim...If ony they had one real track...well I want Supertrucks first.

awesome audi-
any chance of the red and yellow?
or the velox version?

Glad you like it- i found i like 2 days beore and i have never raced better- with crispness and steady frame rates you do drive better=smoother and lap times have dropped-good drivers make a good driver

i have wlked away from the ATi drivers because of there inconsistant behaivior for now.
I a have tried NGO (ngohq.com) they have ATi drivers and Nvidia (and this stuff is magic! for LFS) a crispness you have never seen before. NGO ATi optimized driver v 1.6.4

my other apps run great too. LFS, GTL, GPL, Heat, N2K3, more detail than before and such...
i recommend much

really the damage modelling is well done, graphically it shows you buggered up and the suspension and tyres do take a wallop.
so bumpers and doors don't come off at this time, the damage model in good games likie GPL and GTL and other don't do as well.
lights break, and bumpers fall, but the severity is never addressed as in LFS, a car gets proper rooted in a big shunt, and other games you suddenly stop working...?
LFS is ground breaking in its approach, if we had GTL cars and LFS physics and damging (along with some parts falling off as GTL) i think this migth be worse than heroin. I wold play LFS on a good server until i die of starvation, or i run out of money to pay electric bills.
LFS is really that good- people complain but the idea is NOT to wreck, or crash, race clean and every car should cross the finish line ok, if there is bumper deformation or wheels askew due to Offs or impacts, well that'll show, but remember damage is a bonus, to how it behaves which it does well in spades, but why worry about something you shouldn't do.?
illepall

"how is this an improvement"
well i thought the improvment suggestion was in the post...that is we have an in to get Saubers (as the car shape could only have come from their oK) so why not get an exclusive sauber liscence and get the group C car?

or if the deal is with intel then go full bash and any one with intel sponsorship can easy get that 'real' car into LFS- i say improve the Intel connection or if it is suaber improve and exploit these links..

of course one is arcadey and LFS is the sim, my complaint is the lack of loyalty to one company which i suppose is old time romanticism-really exposure is equal to dollars so expose yourself every where

So Intel is the broker to get the SaubersBMW in Rfactor with Villenueve and Hiedfeld.... WTH
what dos this mean for LFS?? a superior Simulator of car physics to any comers, graphically i like it, it is crisp and well done, and no fluff. (GT legends is something special though...)
anyway an improvment now that the Online sim fight is being tossed around by intel's and Suaber's nosing into everything, can't LFS show for a better product and garner some more goodies... or Shock! get Sauber liscence for past versions or Sauber's.....Mercedes Sauber Group C?! anyone- without or with the official Mercedes, we get an LMP close top right.

or any other sauber cars...official liveried (suaber ferrari= real ferrari~)

LFS without the tracks options, should get the Sauber Green to get some more real cars now, this is an insult that the BMW f1 shows up in a rival game, thy soiled the relationship! cheating on LFS for another !

Play the Card devs and get the official Sauber GroupC car it is an easy in and they have insult or inSlutted us all loyal to LFS!

while i love the XRR, and the FXR (the fxr being easy to drive through the corners more than any and throttle early) it is unbelievable that the FZR after 3 laps bests the other 2 cars by2-3 seconds without my trying. (i was lapping and comparing) the XRR can be tremendously fast, and it is a great car to drive, perhaps it needs a little boost in peak power? or light ness?
the 4wd GTR is superb but again- how can it match or near a lap time to the FZR? should the FZR retain the same width tyres of the FZ50 or is that too handicapping? or should the other GT's get more power (they are turbo after all)
the torque and power curves in the FZR are heaven though- it can pull you out of any wring gear in a bad corner and you can still make up for it. hmmm

What are the times when you hotlap?
+12, +35.70?
what does the plus mean- the position in WR charts or top times?

Slow?
these things go 0-160KPH in under 9 seconds...remember the FIA Racetruck class and supertrucks run around 1200 HP and 2000-3000 nm torque , they get to the top speed very fast, most tracks are shortened sprint verisons (except Lausitz and Jarama i think) with the weight and the brick (UF1000 aero) i think these can be slotted in very well. the drafting would cheat the speed limiter a bit, if it is attached to gearing rather than a speed sensor signal after many truckers get penalties for Exceeding the 160KPH limit which i can imagine is only done by slipstreaming. of course Formula Truck in Brasil has similar set up, but they run unrestricted a s far as i now so they can be much faster, but the have a single turbo rule to cut back on power, and weights vary per engine size- form the 9 litre Mercedes to the 14 litre Scania. quite a variety. the racing however is close and furious on both continents, and this could e great in LFS, as fun as BF1 is, the UF1 races are always closer and more whiteknuckle, as in the open wheel classes people get spread out much more, as mistakes are more costly than in touringcars, or Trucks
Bring on the SuperTucks bring Os Camionhes
bring on Camiones,

what i meant by same pattern and different color and same pattern you can see in this picture. Formula super truck in Brasil, (from formulatruck.com)
same skin pattern differnt colors for a different driver

i have been lapping at night for you Rappa
i have been gettin gon around 7 pm or so...
Supertrucks rule!
CoreServers, Eagle, or MCpolice if the server is up.
Apexspeed is another good one, and VSK rental servers is goo too.
i;ll be there mostly (i know six choices but they are th ebest since patch T)

I put this in another thread too, but I crashed (crash to restart)while hotlapping at West Internat. lap 3 in the FOX.

no overclocking and i have 4 fans,